ICIS Lite Mini-Workshop
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ICIS Lite Mini-Workshop
Training Center
International Rice Research Institute
Los Banos, Laguna.
Attendees:
Guoyou Ye (PBGB-CRIL)
William Eusebio (PBGB)
Grace Capilit (GRC)
Victor Alcantara (PBGB-INGER)
Warren Constantino (PBGB-CRIL)
Dec Arreza (PBGB-CRIL)
Vivay Salazar (PBGB-CRIL)
Aien Capistrano (PBGB-CRIL)
Norman Oliva (PBGB)
Ruby Sallan-Gonzales (PBGB)
Lilibeth Sison (GRC)
Riza Sulabo (CESD)
Melvin Tordecilla (CESD)
Connie Lotho (PBGB)
ICIS Intro
RHamilton: Seed increase, incoming is not Genebank function but SHU/IRRI
function.
Generating Crosses
ICIS Lite interface (buttons, tabs)
GYe: show the customizing INI file later
Data Validation error
WEusebio: re: dash?
WConstantino: yes, u can customize
WConstantino: now faster to load in workbook
[Advancing Lines]
WEusebio: naming convention for designation/standadization applied?
WConstantino: no. sorry we failed to take note of that
GCapilit: parents is the direct cross/group it should show the parents NOT the IR
number only. It won't be helpful for the user if IR#s are shown only.
SHOW PARENTS-GPID1
SHamilton: prefered ID, I don't know what your refering to
RHamilton: what is the source?
GCapilit: can we see the GPID1, GPID2?
RAnacleto: rename "source" it is confusing
GCapilit : GPID2- source parent, GPID1- source group
WEusebio: Split..
RAnacleto: Nurseries ?
WEusebio: depends whose entering the list. Meaning of IU of the source names
WConstantino: Appending of the advance list
Adding additional column for viewing
WConstantino: what else am I missing
WEusebio: Characteristics, searching and editing. everything the Setgen does
should also be here.
RHamilton: Setgen missing management of trials
GYe: what are the basic function and then workflow
RHamilton-GYe: Ye u want to edit the list here? RH, no.
WConstantino: inputing 2 ways. indiv search or batch search
Search/Input
Searching germplasm: NO cancel button
WConstantino:
Leveling not yet implemented as suggested by William. I cannot
implement a tree also but will indent.
WEusebio: what if the user puts a dash in A (-A)
WConstantino: unfortunately that is not supported
WEusebio: that is part of the stadardization
WConstantino: L, O, 1 are changed into wild cards
Red color for new germplasm
Orange
Input germplasm
GCapilit-WConstantino: That new list? Yes.
WConstantino: new list, enter your germplasm
GCapilit question about Creating tree
WConstantino: Blue colors are new, white are the existing parent
Manual buiding of sources
WEusebio: what if I change the source?
WConstantino: i have not tried that one.
Using cross information to build a tree
WEusebio: Change the label of male and female buttos of the Input Germplasm form
GID to display beside the treeform?
Can also be an option for users
On Standardization tab
Customizable
GYe: make a fair comparison to the old ICIS to the new one.
Data Retriever/ Parental Selection
-have a search button if there is a long list
-interface will be converted in treeview
WEusebio: where can we see the grain yield?
WConstantino: Theres going to be a search button
DArreza: there will be a tree view
GCapilit: what if we don't have a list of germplasm
DArreza: if you do not have these in minds, you can choose
RSulabo: can i specify a specific value (range) for my query ( >, <, = )
Not yet, will do..
Range? other operations, >, <, =
RHamilton: scales? traits?
GYe: why it has not been implemented
WConstantino: i am the only who can do dll
GYe: i want to see the output
GYe: to the new users, do you have any suggestions for this new workflow?
RHamilton: who are the intended users?
WConstantino: it is supposed to replace the data retriever
RHamilton: one thing is missing, should start with broad number of germplasms and
should narrow the list step by step
GYe: can we have an option to show output in every step?
RHamilton: youre talking about specific ways of narrowing down
GCapilit: do you need to specify the germplasm first before specifying the
range..
DArreza: do you want the range first?
grace: i am asking if there could be another workflow if i do not know the
germplasm then i just want to select based on the traits
* dec shows select starting point *
GCapilit: modify the workflow. what if i don't know the germplasm but
WConstantino: If u don't know the germplasm it will select all germplasm
GYe: it is better if u know the germplasm to retrieve, u need both information to
be searched.
RHamilton: what if i am looking for a category of the germplasm? GID? Filtering
the germplasm?
GYe: no restrictions here
Fieldbook
Steps in creating fieldbook
Setup Mapping
GYe: do not give List-Workbook
It should be automated
Variable Setup
Print Barcode label
GYe: we need your comments here
WConstantino: the local schema doesn't have a trait group
GYe: i do not care whether it will be easy or not, i only care whether it is here
now or not
GYe: basically the icis just provide the interface, the output will come from
cropstat(step 3)
RHamilton: What will the user see? Cropstat interface?
GYe: GCP to have the basic analysis in fieldbook; do u have suggestions
RHamilton: back in step 2, do you include validation?
WConstantino: we have different type of validations (valid values)
GCapilit: do you have an option where we can check varieties
WConstantino: it is when creating your list
CLotho: can we include the previous data?
WConstantino: that is included in the PN fieldbook
RHamilton: any experiment wants to see previous data
CropStat issues:
GYe: There should be a randomization;
NO randomization does not mean no replication
Randomization of new trail or old trial? New.
RHamilton: what if your getting the color of the leaf
..replications of previous study not the new one
Step 4: Field Layout (Link to CropStat)
Step 4.5: Retrieve previous data? (???)
Inventory
WEusebio: Barcode, it should be the Lot ID not the Designation
Dec to modify
Where is the Lot ID?
LotID=SourceLot
GYe: open the workflow developed last time?
WEusebio: we do not want to spend much time trying to search for the lookup entry
button in an interface filled with so many buttons
ACapistrano: customization of those buttons has already been included in the ICIS
installer. The user only needs to select his OU during installation so that ICIS
lite will only show the buttons he needs.
VAlcantara: search by germplasm
WConstantino: u can create your new/own location
or locate existing location
AienCapistrano started creating menus for different OUs
It is now being tested by OJTs
In the ICIS installation, you can choose from the types of menus
Search gerplasm for all the instance of CNA 4196
GYe: make another solution for searching for a germplasm
across the list because it takes too long.
DArreza: *shows search in the inventory by germplasm *
RHamilton: irtp number, if there is a preferred id, we should be able to search
by preferred gid
RAnacleto: is it connecting to access or mysql?
RAnacleto: database used? MySQL or MSAccess, issues in changing databases
Like loading big database
WConstantino: it doesn't matter
RAnacleto: it does matter because of the speed
WEusebio: instead of IRTP number, i have to see all the linings that have
different nametype
RHamilton:viability should be a separate table, cause if you change viability,
you should have a history table of viability. it's too inefficient if it is in
DMS
GYe: if you will have that column, it should only be shown if the seed inventory
is for hybrid
WEusebio: Where are u retrieving that INI Settings?
WConstantino: Retrieved based on GID
WConstantino: it can be done through the ini file
WConstantino: we need to display partner of germplasm.. select A then
automatically select the partner
DArreza: Warehouse table?
WConstantino: Implementation of the code
WEusebio: Question to Bing, do this process will work with your list in
Transgenic?
Bing: My concern is that it takes so long to load, 10-15 mins!
DArreza: Bing is using the old IMS version
Jojie: issues on duplicates
DArreza: Male and female entries are different
Jojie: Can the parental be exported? Can u export the list?
A X B
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A
A X R
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|H| 50 kg
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|R| 5 kg
How to store the pair
GYe (germplasm search), we need filter
RHamilton: i need we to have an electronic whiteboard/tracking system for feature
requests
WEusebio: what about cropforge
RHamilton: we need simpler one. if we have that, we can continue putting several
requests
RHamilton: we also need a way how to integrate grims with the icis lite. grims
deals with our whole workflow. we need the fieldbook for the next wet season
(june)
RHamilton: we also barcodes for the scales/scoring
Closing...
GYe: We need your group to help us with ICIS Lite
I care for the new features
fieldbook generation input will be appreciated
next 2 months...
GYe: set prioroties for the next two months
RHamilton: GRIMS integrate to ICIS Lite
GRIMS workflow; We can change to ICISLite
